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10/02/2011

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Dan Hammond

I concur.

I'm not anti-open carry. Roger makes some good points as to the whys and wherefores of open carry as contrasted to concealed carry.

LarryA

To me depending on open carry to deter a criminal attack is a lot like depending on a restraining order to deter family violence.

When a RO works it’s because the actor wasn’t really that determined. When a RO fails it usually causes the actor to act suddenly and more violently.

Open carry means volunteering to be First Target.

Bruce

You have eloquently put into words the reason I rarely open carry. The only time I open carry is when I wear a 1911 as my "BBQ Gun". Quite frankly at those events everyone else is too.

fsilber

"There are certain neighborhoods in Las Vegas where open carry may be seen as a sign of disrespect to the criminal organization that controls those neighborhoods."

More than any illusion that they're pursuing safety, I suspect this is also the real motivation of the many governments which prohibit the general public from going about armed.

uncle Dave

How true... I find so many people wanting to make a poltical statement that are from "safe" areas. Many from place with population that would take half there state to equal my town. They carry to make a statement... I carry to protect myself, there is a differance.

JERRY SCOTTON

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I HAVE CARRIED (CONCEALED) FOR ABOUT 43 YEARS. I HAVE LIVED IN GEORGIA, TEXAS, ALABAMA AND I DO NOT KNOW OF ANY TIME THAT IT HAS BEEN NOTED. I DO NOT WANT TO BE KNOWN AS A GUN NUT OR WHAT EVER. JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT MY FAMILY AND MYSELF. I AM 78 YEARS OLD AND I FEEL SAFE WITH THE WAY I CARRY CONCEALED. THANK YOU,

donald horton

I agree. Most people consider themselves adequately trained when they get their CCW license; obviously not enough to offset making themselves the first target in any encounter. Surprise always is an advantage in any sort of encounter.

George Munford

Thank you for this article.

George

 mindy costa

I think it is a good article, more or less tells it how it is. Not criticisms, just my thoughts on the matter: unfortunately in CA (and some other states) 1) most cant carry concealed, 2) carry concealed requires permits, which I for one am against.. even though I'm already on that list in other states. 3) the reason CA is allowed to keep hitting us with these atrocious gun laws is because too many people think guns are bad, and part of OC is to help dis-spell that myth. 4) I accept responsibility for being that stupid person that will go into an area that it will be considered "the middle finger", not because I think it is the safest thing to do... but because it is about 6% of people that commit about 80% of crime. I believe that if that 94% stood up for itself.. that 6% would be the ones that had to stay inside at night and lock their doors! I will go into that bad neighborhood and OC before I allow myself to go un-armed.5) If I didn't OC, I could not educate people every day on what their rights are and give them the choice on exercising them. 6)Something to think about- if you end up in court for a self defense shooting, you are highly liable whether you CC or OC.. but if you are attacked while you OC.. how can you reasonably be told that your life wasn't in danger? The bad guy ignored the big steel stop sign, kinda infers that he was trying to use deadly force.

Tequila Jake

The author's observations and philosophy make perfect sense to me. Although we are not (yet) allowed to carry openly in my state, I have already thought this through and decided not carry openly if and when that option is approved where I live. And I even more emphatically agree with the "Three Stupid" rule. I've had problems (not serious ones, thank God!) in the past for breaking one or more of these rules and it won't happen again. Even more importantly, I think I've had something to do with the fact that my son never breaks those rules.

Chet Szymecki

You have three pictures of you training - in all of them you are openly carrying. Do you primarily train drawing from open or concealed?

Why do police and military openly carry?

Roger Phillips

Chet, We usually train from concealed. Some students train open carry due to the fact that may not be advanced enough to train concealed.

Uniform requirements ususlly entail a tucked in shirt. Their job is to kill or apprehend. My job is to go home and take care of my loved ones

Roger Phillips

Mindy, If I lived in CA I would open carry all of the time also. Situations such as that do change things.

Roger Phillips

I am glad you all liked the article, it is the first of a four part series of articles. I am really trying to keep things open minded, so that there is not the typical ridiculous closed minded debates that run rampid on this topic. Only the individual can judge the decision that they make. My concern has always been the the political activist really know very little about qualty self defense and often hide the true empirical data that is out there on this subject.

Hey Rakes

i for one have numerous instances where i know for a fact that the BG seeing i had a firearm has prevented them from making a mistake. there is no way of telling how many times it has happened that i didn't know it.
if you can't provide a cite of a statement, than all it is is an opinion. can you provide one article where a BG that saw an armed citizen, targeted said citizen for a crime?

Roger Phillips

For the political activists that have been attempting to drag this discussion into the usual sewer of open carry fanaticism, do some research on only the second most famous gunfight of all times (behind the OK Corral.)

April 11, 1986 FBI shootout in Miami and where Platt and Matix weapons came from.

I've cited this fact over and over again only to the sound of crickets. That is just the most famous case. Attacks on security gaurds, cops, guns store workers, and gun range goers are all over the internet.......but of course that does not fit your political agenda......does it?

J

Damn good common sense!! Well said and well presented. Keep up the great work, keep giving people an opportunity to think!

Ed Lepps

Heck yeah. I roll ninja style and sneak up on the bad guys.

r. croke

Have rifles, shotguns and handguns. Don't hunt anymore, but love guns and shooting and am considered a "gun nut". Believe that this open carry push (especially the juvenile grandstanding confronting cops) will only hurt our cause and create a reactive backlash among the "uneducated" sheeple hurting us at the ballot box. Think we're sh!t!ng in our own nest!

r. croke

Want to bet that sooner or later a video will be on the news of two "cowboys" drawing down at a McDees or B'King with maybe innocents killed or wounded. Then watch the media field day with politicians calling for an end to this madness by gun crazy fools.

B J

I heartily endorse the basic theme of being the best inside of a life-threatening encounter and the corollary on the "Three Stupids". Thinking before acting, while taking the above into consideration, would probably point most toward CC rather than OC. That said, I tend to prefer more freedom rather than less so my preference would be that OC should not be precluded by state law.

Good article and good discussions.

Larry Eddings

The author has outlined a very sensible, intelligent, and clear approach to the subject of going armed, and to life in general.

Kane

Roger,
Thanks for your insight and a great article!
I agree with the "3 stupid rule" and try not to be stupid.
AS for open carry, I believe, if nothing else, it marks one as the first target.

Kane

Roger,
Thanks for your insight and a great article!
I agree with the "3 stupid rule" and try not to be stupid.
As for open carry, I believe, if nothing else, it marks one as the first target.

Glockbuyer

If you don't have a shiny BADGE, then open carry is foolish - inviting trouble from Law Enforcement, Criminals & others. Open carry offers NO advantages other than increasing your wardrobe options........

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