The Flash Mob Attack - How To Defend?

 

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - All eight suspects are in custody after a brutal attack in Five Points early Monday morning which left the teenage victim in critical condition, according to Columbia police.

CHICAGO, IL (WLS) -- The recent series of mob-style attacks on Chicago's Near North Side mark the first major hurdles facing Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Chicago's new police superintendent Garry McCarthy. The latest attack happened Tuesday night. A witness tells WGN 15-20 teens beat and robbed two people at Chicago and Wabash

AKRON, OH -- Out of nowhere, the six were attacked by dozens of teenage boys, who shouted ''This is our world'' and ''This is a black world'' as they confronted Marshall and his family.

NO. VIRGINIA -- Three people were beaten by mobs in Northern Virginia in two separate incidents that occurred within five minutes of each other on Saturday night, authorities said.

These events have consumed the discussion at most self-defense focused websites in the last few weeks.  Accompanying the discussion is the usual hand wringing regarding what to do if one is beset by a gang of thugs bent on your destruction. Well, I have my views on this which will no doubt shock the senses of the Doodley Doo Rights of the gun world.

First, this was not some group of young teenaged honor students.  In all cases it was a group of urban thugs.  Second, they were not there to practice for their debate on the ills of capitalism.  Third, they understand only one thing...violence.  So understand who they are and be ready to speak their language.

1).  Don't go to stupid places with stupid people to do stupid things.   Simple but often ignored.  Listen, we do not live in a fair world where everyone respects everyone else.  Nor where everyone gets along.  You may in fact be totally color-blind in a socio-ethnic sort of way, but not everyone is.  So even if your liberal sociology professor thinks it is a cool thing to take a stroll at midnight through a ethnically homogenous part of town (different ethnicity that you), it is still a stupid idea. 

 

 

2).  Always have a method to defend yourself.  Even if it is not socially acceptable, or in line with the rules of the day, having some sort of weapon is essential.  Right about now, some of the Doodley Doo Rights are screaming that I am telling people to violate the law.  Well, go and google these stories.  Look at the faces of the victims...specially the one on life support right now.  Put yourself in their shoes.  Your choice is to arm yourself in violation of the rules, or to take the raping, beating and robbery?  What would you choose?

3).  Avoid if you can.  If you are standing around and see a group of twenty young urban thugs about two blocks away yelling, "kill whitey", and looking at your reflection in the store window, realize that you have not been in the sun in a while, here is my advice - "RUN".  If it looks like trouble, it probably is.  The gang is not there to debate the effects of american corporate expansion on the development of the urban neighborhoods with you.

4).  If you cannot avoid, attack...brutally and viciously.  This is not the time to worry about some goofball fear monger's articles about being sued, nor about anything of the sort.  It is time to deploy your weapons and attack the leaders.  Listen folks, there is disparity of force by the sheer number against you and the knowledge you have based on these prior flash mob events. 

If you have limited yourself by the rules and only have a knife, be certain you know how to use it.  Make it big enough that it will cause extreme pain and bleeding when you stab the attacker.  This is not the place for a legally carried tomato peeler that is two inches or less.  You need a fixed or folding knife that is at least 4 inches long. 

When the time comes, do not flash the knife like you are some crocodile dundee type guy ("that's not a knife").  Stab the first man deep and hard in his face and move to the next guy and repeat the exercise.  Do the same to anyone within reach.  When their buddies reel back, screaming in horror and pain, holding their bloodied faces with eyeballs hanging out, it will create hesitation.  Use that time to disengage. 

If you have a pistol, please make sure it is a modern high capacity weapon with a couple of spare magazines in your belt.  The Suarez International company gun, a Glock 17 with three magazines, yields a sum total of 52 rounds.  Figure three rounds per man, and you can reduce an angry mob of panga swinging killers into a fleeing group of bloodied bad guys.  Draw it and yell, "Get The F*** Back!" If they do, run away.  If they do not, shoot the first man in the face. The rest will take care of itself.

It really is very simple.  Might you get into trouble?  Sure, but being in jail because you stabbed three guys on the street is far better than being in the hospital having holes drilled into your head to relieve the pressure on your brain while the female members of your party are getting HIV exams in the next room.  The only way to defeat brutality is with extreme and greater brutality.

Keep that in mind, arm yourself properly and if it comes, be brutal.

Comments

[Abraham]

Good point!

[Anthony Ferenzi]

I live in Chicago and these brutal attacks are downplayed in the media and by CPD hierarchy so as to avoid reducing tourism. The attacks here happen on the gold coast and in the neighborhoods. I cannot agree more with your approach. While I do not wish to be the sacrificial lamb, maybe a brutal retaliation will get the necesary media attention. The problem here is that the libs will turn the facts around and paint the victim as a vigilante, AND CPD WILL CHARGE YOU!!

That said, better to be judged by twelve than carried by six!

[Garrick]

Gabe, as usual is correct in his course of action. They have had minor groups like this arise in California where I am currently working. So far it appears it is for looting purposes only, but that will quickly change with the unemployment situation.
Thank You Gabe for addressing this important subject.

[William W. "Bill" Winn]

I agree in whole - AVOID is rule # 1! However, if attack is forced upon you, attack without hesitation, mercilessly inflicting gross and deadly injuries to as many as possible until the attackers are down and/or running away. Then get out of there.

[Arthur Melanson]

Thanks, Gabe, for straight talk. So much of what we read or is being taught, seems to be aimed at making the shooter more afraid of the law than the person trying to kill them. It seems they have a profit motive in mind. I don't appreciate being merchandised through fear tactics for the enrichment of lawyers and lawyer wannabes. Keep giving us the straight stuff. God richly bless you, dear brother.

[Ken Bittner]

That's all the scumbags understand...force. And your (meaning our) force needs to be greater than theirs. It needs to be over, swiftly and brutally. Over. Period.
Then, GTFOOD.

[Gunwhore]

Excellent advice Gabe. The time to be politically correct is long passed once the mob chooses you for the evenings entertainment. With that in mind, if I were unable to escape and evade, I would assume that I likely will be severely injured or killed in the next few moments and act accordingly. By that, I mean that I would hit them as hard and fast as I can. My very life may depend on it. Usually these groups are very bold due to the enormous advantage in numbers and will be difficult to deter with anything less than the possibility of horrific injuries or death. So I would do my best to severely injure or kill the nearest man and continue on with the next until I was either out of ammo, incapacitated, or the mob had rethought their decision to use me as their entertainment and have left the scene. Although it could act as a deterrent, I would be hesitant to show my weapon prior to engaging because that would remove my advantage. The element of surprise could be negated by an armed member of the crowd. I'm sure that decision would not be ideal in court, but I would be much more likely to survive. This is a very tough scenario because in order to survive I would have to become the aggressor and it would likely be very difficult to defend in the politically correct courts of today.

[Carol Bishop]

Great reminders- thank you printing and pasting to my youngest son's bedroom wall.

[Miles]

Agree 100%

[EGS]

the timing of the article is impeccable. i believe i heard a news report on saturday and started thinking about how to deal with these situations. I've used similar statements to yours to justify my carry of arms into areas that may not be welcome to it. Thanks for the estra helping of free thought.

[Joe]

Cocked and locked and always vigilant

[Geoff Adams]

It is truly a sad time in our country's history when this type of thing happens. That said , I agree with Gabe 1000%!!! First don't be where you shouldn't, and if you can't help it then be prepared and then don't hesitate. Do what needs to be done! As the saying goes, "Better to be judged by 12 than to carried by 6".

[justaman]

Sound Advice

[Z]

Amen. There are some people in this world who do not respect the BS addage, "use your words and not your fists." The only thing some people respect is a gun in their face, and sometimes only if bullets are coming out of it. I'm glad somebody has the balls make this statement out in the open.

[Dave Krongard]

If they're going to make it that easy and obvious for you to abandon your civility and to go right to the blade or your sidearm.... then it's your duty to kill as many of those mutherfuckers as you can and to make the evening news with the body count.

If they want to throw away their already-useless lives in an attempt to take yours then let nothing hold you back when you make your stand....you can't repent for it later if you're dead because you failed to act.

[Sage0925]

Thank you very much for this article. Somebody put a link to this site on FOX, and I'm glad they did. This looks like a very interesting site. Looks like I will find a lot of answers here to some questions I had about self defense with firearms.

Thank you.

[Kris Wolfe]

Because of a tramatic brain injury and being dead at one point I have experienced something uncommon to most. I experienced a condition where you do not have any capability for morals, love, or right or wrong. You are on animal behavior. Every concept of what you were brought up to be is gone. Right and wrong do not exist. The parts of your brain that direct you are unactive. It is a nothing and Godless place to be. Because our society has eliminated God and social education has no moral guidence for a holy future we have many people who are inable to even have a thought of what honor and goodness is. These people are like someone who is brain damaged because no information was ever put there. This is called evil and to protect the good (yourself and family)all effort to kill is permisable. If not for 2,000 peaple praying for me and God honoring them for there faithfulness I would not be here today.

[NCGunOwners]

Great post. This has been on my mind lately and we have linked to it from the NC Gun Owner's forum: http://www.warriortalknews.com/2011/06/the-mob-attack-what-to-do-to-defend.html

The sad thing is the sheer amount of these attacks you didn't even mention. Everyone should be VERY concerned about this.

My heart goes out to the defenseless saps in Commifornia and Illinois.

Arm up, America.

[martin mancuso]

Nothing breaks up a crowd like a molitov!

[Dave]

Here in south FL, we have very generous carry laws and guns available to us.
It wouldn't take 52 rds to dissuade a pack of these feral beasts, it just takes the removal of you weapon and the threat of ventilating them to do the trick.
Maybe one single rd would be needed, then you'll be amazed at how quickly the turds can RUN!

[Linda]

If you display your firearm, do so rapidly, issue NO warning and use it. Do not contact the police (*thats where all the trouble starts) then just vanish. Worked for me and I sleep well....

[Mr. McCoy]

"You need a fixed or folding knife that is at least 4 inches long." ~ I can't agree with this part. You need to have a fixed blade knife. A folder will do just that, fold up on you, and that's not an option in the middle of a fight. Try to pretend your life depends on it. KaBar

[f8te]

Bravo!

[Deelzebubb]

Excellent post. What about pepper spray? Avoid prison.

[Smokey]

As Clint Eastwood once said " You gotta get mad-dog mean". These people expect you to cower and beg for mercy. That's what fuels them.