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04/08/2011

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Ah, excellent article Uli. A very underrated weapons system for sure. I know I never really appreciated it until I started following you on Facebook.
Miles

wouldn't an M1-garand be a better choice? i would imagine that the 8 rd. en bloc "clips" would be peoples republik of kalifjorniastan legal right?

i've got a few lever 30-30's and really enjoy the little carbines.....but aside from the price disparity, the garand seems to outshine the little lever rifles. one can even find a garand redone in .308 from time to time.

a rifleman with a bandoleer of ammo and a good garand can be formidable. ask a million dead japs, nazi's, north koreans, and communist chineese.

just $.02

good article none the less.

I like lever action rifles, but they're slow to reload, so my fallback rifle is a Mosin-Nagant Model 59 carbine. The straight bolt handle allows rapid cycling of the action, and with a few pouches or a couple of bandoleers of loaded stripper clips, I can reload pretty quickly. It packs a hard punch, and with a decent optics, it makes an acceptable and economical scout or guerrilla sniper rifle. With a spike bayonet attached, it's pretty wicked when the action gets up close and personal, if one is schooled in bayonet fighting. The rifle, scope, 400 rounds of ammo, and accessories can all be had for around $400 for those on a budget.

I agree with the utility of the lever gun.

I have a Savage 99. It has a rotary magazine so it can chamber the .308 5+1.

I have been carrying a Lever action 30-30 for over 25 years as my car/truck gun. Used to be just a Winny, but now I use the new Marlin 16" stainless. Shoots sweet.

I am also going from the Winchester 150gr HP, which I have carried for years, to the much newer Hornady LEVERevolution ammunition. Gives me an additional 50 yards, (some say 100) and it "feels" good going down range.

I see and intend the use of the mobile defensive rifle to keep the bad guy/s off me and give me time and space to separate and withdraw.

I have agreed with the political correctness of the classic leveraction rifle For years. The look was one of the primary reasons I carried the 30-30 for so many years. It is the closest, IMNSHO to motherhood and apple pie a rifle can be in America.

Good luck.

Fred

Aren't lever action rifle ammo choices limited by the shape of the projectil? I believe that many years ago I heard that because of the tube magazine, the tip of the projectil needs to be rather flat as not to put too much pressure/force on the primer of the cartridge in front (and possibly initiating an AD)
Is this true or just some sort of urban myth?

Thanks.

Great article Uli.

Cheers
Thorsten

Love the article Uli. I just got my first .357 Marlin 1894C last month, my MM ammo cuff came in last week. The system is great and will accompany me on long road trips and backwoods adventures. I'm pretty sure it's legal in all 50 states (in a useful condition) which makes traveling with it a breeze.

The only downside of a bolt action gun is that it is difficult to run ambidextrous, especially while getting off the X. From half transfer position (e.g. right handed weapon hold, stock against left shoulder) it's almost impossible to cycle the action, which is not an issue with a lever action rifle.
As far as power and range of the rifle goes, yes, a Nagant or Mauser has a lot of Oomph to send far downrange.

Great article Uli! I have the Marlin Model 336 in 30-30 and love it! It's a home defense gun, and a deer hunting gun, but now I'm going to grab it as a back-up go-rifle as well. I used to shoot Remington Core-Lokt ammunition, but have now switched to the Hornady LeverRevolution ammunition. I can attest that it can give an extra 100 yards of accurate range to my Marlin due to the innovative ballistic soft tip Hornady designed.

To Thorsten - yes you heard right about round shaped ammunition in tube-fed magazines. Years ago ballistic metal tipped cartridges (pointed, rather than rounded) did in fact create a problem for lever action rifles. In the event of a dropped loaded rifle, or sadly, even after an intentional firing of the rifle, some shooters experienced a tubed cartridge discharging to devastating effect due to the point impacting the next cartridge's primer. Injury to the shooter and usually a destroyed rifle resulted. Manufacturer's quickly discontinued ballistically shaped cartridges for lever-action tube-fed rifles.

Hornady's LeverRevolution ammunition (sure to be copied by others) uses a soft-tipped ballistic cartridge to eliminate those circumstances. I've fired dozens of Hornady's LeverRevolution lever-action ammunition with no problems.

I think I'll stick with my AR-15 carbine, my multitude of P-Mag magazines, and my Glock's. If all you have available to you is a lever-action rifle, then I guess that's fine, but the modern-day Lucas McCain would have an AR-15 on his ranch.

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